Tuesday, June 8, 2010

Talking to Strangers

Preface: This post was supposed to be all about George R. Price, a prominent scientist of the 20th century who was interested in altruism and ended up slitting his throat with a possibly rusty pair of scissors.
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(Price dedicated the later part of his life to helping the homeless, often inviting homeless people to live in his house. Sometimes, when the people in his house became a distraction, he slept in his office at the Galton Laboratory. He also gave up everything to help alcoholics, as he helped them they stole his belongings causing him to fall into depression.

He was eventually thrown out of his rented house due to a construction project in the area, which made him unhappy because he could no longer provide housing for the homeless. He moved to various squats in the North London area, and became depressed over Christmas, 1974. He later committed suicide in the New Year on the 6th January 1975 using a pair of nail scissors to slash his throat. His body was identified by his close colleague Bill Hamilton.[10] Friends said he committed suicide because of despondency over his inability to continue helping the homeless.)

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It kind of turned out a little different, but Price is still present in the shadow throughout my recollections.


My descent into madness...begin:



Slowly but surely I am growing mad (as in insane, not "angry" or the most common NYC usage "many", e.g., 'there's mad white people in Manhattan' actually means that there's a lot of whites, be they mad or not).



I've read that madness sets in slowly, but damn is it ever subtle. Today I decided it would be fun, educational and productive to speak with strangers. I don't mean to ask for directions, I mean to actually start meaningless conversations (that hopefully turn in to something meaningful - because let's face it, you can't actually start a meaningful conversation with a stranger... unless you're both crazy). I've met 4 complete strangers today, and got the sparksnotes to the autobiography of 3. In addition I met 1 stranger connected to a non-stranger and 3 relative strangers (of various positions on the relativity scale, but I have met all 3 of them before).

Let's focus on the complete strangers.

The first stranger was really asking to be talked to... actually quite literally, as I met her on okcupid. So I don't feel I was overstepping my bounds when we met for coffee and I proceeded to talk to her for almost 2 hours. Although I will probably never see her again (I liked her, but she is way too beautiful for me - also our personalities don't necessarily complement each other), I did get quite a lot of information about her life. I don't know that there's much I can do with it, but it was interesting at the time. In any case, this was one of the acceptable stranger-talks, even though going into I knew that chances were slim.

Now, this is where I am actually harassing random people.

I was stuck on the train and there was a guy listening to music across from me. After a few minutes of trying to fall asleep, and failing, I decided to get his attention. Now, there were already plenty of people complaining about the train. Yet I harassed this young man to ask him what he thought about the situation. Then our conversation escalated to where he was going, how he was lazy and didn't want to walk, and I took it further to ask where he lives, what he is doing in New York and so on. I learned he is from New Jersey, but moved to New York (175th, mind you) in October. He sort of has 2, but sort of 3-4, roommates. He used to work in Hoboken but the commute was killer. Now he ....[train noise].... a couple of ...[more train noise].... Which is cool. Well I am proud of myself for not lying about where I live and getting off at his stop. That seems like it could turn stalker-ish very quicky. But I wasn't into that. I was just trying to connect, you know? And I appreciate that he appreciates how difficult it is for teachers. Good bye, almost-Bieber-hair guy. [OK, NOTE, somehow blogger cut out a good portion of this story... I dare not rewrite it, though]

Second complete stranger I harassed started out with an innocent "which way is 1st ave?"... and I swear I didn't intend to go any further. Then, however, I asked for further directions.. perhaps he knew where this restaurant was. Turns out the bastard was going to the same place! It was fucking fate, dudes. I asked him if he was meeting the same people and he said "no". I guess that would be too much (and he agreed). Yet I proceeded to talk. Words would just come out, with very little meaning attached to them. I even mentioned that I am trying this new things where I talk to strangers. He seemed supportive and said it was a good life decision - it builds better communities or something. I didn't realize how crazy that sounded then.

Third notable stranger harassment was aimed at a middle-aged to almost elderly woman (she was in great shape though... sorry I didn't mean for that to sound sexual, I just meant that she wasn't frail just gray-haired) who was accompanied by a much younger man. Again, my body couldn't quite get into the rhythm of the stop-and-go train motion, so without a nap (and crap I JUST REALIZED I LEFT MY COPY OF THE ECONOMIST AT THAT INDIAN RESTAURANT! that's why I was bored!) I itched for a distraction. I asked a question I pretty much knew the answer to, or at least would know the answer very soon (and knowing it made no different at all). She was polite enough to respond. I then blabbed some things about public transportation and she indulged me in a conversation. It delved deeper into my history and hers (turns out she lived in Portland for 30 years and was actually a middle school teacher ), which was certainly more interesting than silence. She was quite excited to learn that I was from Portland and was a middle school teacher too. We talked about how great John's Landing was back then, and how much Parkrose sucked and continues to suck. She also explained that the younger man (who seemed to be in his 20s?) was actually her nephew and just graduated from high school. Then she told him that I was from Portland and when his reaction was complete disinterest - not even a polite "oh, what great fortune", just a blank stare - I realized I was growing mad (he saw me for the soon-to-be-completely crazy person who talks to strangers whether they respond or not.. like that guy on the L train).

Talking -> mumbling -> yelling -> cats

As far as I can tell, the only difference between me and crazy people is that I don't look crazy so people are more willing to talk to me. I've been trying to be friendlier to strangers, thinking it was going to make things better. I see now that it was just a subtle step into madness. It's not always clear when people enjoy a conversation and when they are just being polite. And now I am tolerated because I can carry a conversation and not sound crazy, but it's really only a few quick and sudden drops before I start mumbling nonsensically, then yelling obscenities and finally throwing cats at strangers.

7 comments:

  1. Of course he slit his throat! He wasn't fit for survival and if he had half a scientist brain he'd know that. Anyone who sacrifices that much isn't going to do anyone any good, much less himself. The universe just doesn't work like that. I hate to sound all Ayn Rand about things but... if he wanted to help the world he should have started with himself.

    You know that stupid question on ok cupid about if you'd rather you die or 10 other people, or 10000 other people? I always score "brutal" cause i'd let those fuckers die. Why? It's a stupid fucking question! Like if Lex Luther is going to drop a bunch of people off the empire state building unless I (Superman) kill myself, and I can't just somehow outsmart Lex and save them and myself... I'm letting those fuckers die. It's not my fault. It's a stupid situation! I'm not going out of my way to kill 10 people but... if it's me or them, it's me. Fuck altrusim. Seriously. There was some moron who wanted to kill himself so he could be an organ donor. same situation, essentially... except that you'd call Superman a hero and mr. organ donor man a fucking whack job. And in a sense, one's immediate reaction is to want to think he's a hero, but there's something undeniably unsettling about the whole thing that makes us still think he's crazy. For one, if everyone acted by that rationale, we'd be eaten by tigers. 2. If everyone martyred themselves like that, this world would be more insufferable than it already is. Seriously. People that giving irritate the hell out of everyone.

    It's not as brutal as i make it sound... I could explain this better but... i'm tired. and i haven't studied for my final in 6 hours at all. oops.

    Anyways... interesting experiment you propose. I wonder how much of it is that you're not remotely crazy, and new york is just the kind of place that can make a person feel lonlier than ever. I live in rural oregon now. the population of literate, single, not already a parent, remotely attractive people is about nil. I've never been happier. And you're EXPECTED to make small talk with strangers.

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  2. This was fun to read! I admire your outgoing-ness/descent into madness. And as always, I miss you a horrific amount.

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  3. EDIT: I don't actually at all mean he should have offed himself for being stupid or anything. I mean maybe he wasn't. It's just that... by placing the wants of other people so far ahead of his own needs, it wasn't exactly a shocking outcome.

    Anyways... Also... the last lady. I like her. She's normal. You're normal. Her son is awkweird... You didn't really throw a cat at her!

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  4. It was her nephew! He was just way too cool for me. He was a jock. Fucking jocks. Also, K, I really appreciate your feedback. Maybe I should take more and give less... as a teacher I give enough... or maybe I shouldn't even give that much, it does drive me crazy occasionally. But I don't know that I can be satisfied with being selfish. I kind of liked the movie kick-ass a lot, because it was that whole idea of "why are people not trying to be really nice?" , but I guess it makes sense. Maybe I should move to a rural area. Maybe I should move back to Ukraine.

    And Ruby, thank you for finally commenting! I miss you horribly more.

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  5. Also, I am not moving back to Ukraine. Maybe back to Oregon if I start to feel that crazy again.

    And K, extra points for using the word "awkweird"

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  6. I suppose looking back reflecting on this now after some time and such... and maybe also i'm not super sober at the moment...

    I'm not really that against being nice and all that mushy stuff... i mean, please, i'm going into nursing?? but, heh, it's also about getting paid... but i digress....

    -k

    I mean... I'm totally for giving more and taking less but there's a line you know. People who take care of themselves FIRST are best at helping others.

    But I could be wrong, i suck ass... i promised you an email last weekend and effing forgot it in the horror that was 3 days of high school reunion. i'm a BAD person.

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  7. you are an amazing person.

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